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Title: ~ The Giallo Discussion Thread ~
Post by: Renacimiento on January 22, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
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This is a small introduction to the giallo. A welcome for everyone to discuss, talk and share suggestions and stuff. Without going into detail about the etymological origin of the word giallo, a few small words are important to become familiar with this style. The giallo as cinematic expression does not pigeonholed into a single genre, but it tends to cover different genres like detective fiction, gothic horror, drama, among others.

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It is generally recognized to the film "La Ragazza che Sapeva Troppo" (1963)(The Evil Eye), directed by Mario Bava, as the first giallo film, until "Sei donne per l'assassino" (1964) ( Blood and Black Lace), this one, already populated of all elements (the murderer black dressed and unrecognizable, a staggering ferocity of the numerous crimes, the overwhelming narrative outcome) which then would constitute the gender structures.

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But it was "L'uccello dalle piume di cristallo" (1970) ( The Bird with the Crystal Plumage), the debut of young director Dario Argento, the film that not only would define several of constants of the genre, but also would be responsible for popularizing it, causing that a series of directors will attempt to emulate the success of the film. In a few years appeared a formidable number of films, many of which would become objects of worship.

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The plots of the giallo revolve around a series of murders, which usually are portrayed in a pretty graphic way, its plots are full of traps, of plot twists, of a use of the camera to show the position of the murderer without get to know his identity, his clothes (raincoats, gloves, mask, hat ...) and his imbalanced psychology, sadism and eroticism are present and a special taste for gimmicky crimes, and especially stylish in its execution.

Other giallos (Note: This list is not complete by any means, nor is it intended to be):

- Blood and Black Lace (1964).
- A Lizard in a Woman's Skin (1971) from director Lucio Fulci.
- Blade of the Ripper (1971), from Sergio Martino.
- Knife of Ice (1972) from Umberto Lenzi.
- All the Colors of the Dark (1972) from Sergio Martino.
- The Iguana With a Tongue of Fire (1971).
- Tropic of Cancer (1972).
- The Case of the Scorpion's Tail (1971).
- Black Belly of the Tarantula (1971).
- The Fifth Cord (1971).
- What Have They Done to Solange? (1972).
- The Red Queen Kills Seven Times (1972).
- Seven Blood Stained Orchids (1972).
- Don´t Torture a Duckling (1972).
- Deep Red (1975).
- The House With Laughing Windows (1976).
- The Psychic (1977).
- Tenebre (1982).
- Torso (1973).


In short, this is a starting point, the place to talk about what are your favorite and which are not, to get recommendations, to exchange views.
Title: Re: ~ The Giallo Discussion Thread ~
Post by: Yggdrasil on January 28, 2013, 07:20:33 AM
Torso is probably my favorite giallo, but I also love Tenebre, Deep Red, The Bird With The Crystal Plumage and The New York Ripper.
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Post by: woodenheart on January 28, 2013, 06:02:33 PM
Tenebre is my favorite, 10/10. Then there is Sleepless. <3
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Post by: splat on January 28, 2013, 06:55:46 PM
TENEBRAE...I have the tee... and TORSO are the ones that came straight to mind. Even though not perfect by any means THE NEW YORK RIPPER holds an appeal to me as well.

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Post by: Dave on January 30, 2013, 06:03:07 AM
Torso is probably my favorite giallo, but I also love Tenebre, Deep Red, The Bird With The Crystal Plumage and The New York Ripper.

I hate 'The New York Ripper' with a passion. It's an odious piece of shit. The rest of these films you mentioned are excellent.

Great Lucio Fulci giallo movies are 'A Lizard in a Woman's Skin', 'Perversion Story' and 'Don't Torture a Duckling' (his best film). With the exception of TNYR, Fulci was a better gialli filmmaker than he was a director of outright horror movies.

'The Strange Vice of Mrs. Wardh' is also great directed by Sergio Martino who made 'Torso'.

EDIT: I really want to see Martino's 'Your Vice Is a Locked Room and Only I Have the Key' (1972)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW1eqPgAk7Q

The full film has been uploaded to Youtube.
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Post by: woodenheart on January 30, 2013, 04:37:47 PM
Dave, high motherfuckin' five!!.....I too can't stand New York Ripper....I tried and tried but fuck that film..
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Post by: Dave on January 31, 2013, 02:48:07 AM
Dave, high motherfuckin' five!!.....I too can't stand New York Ripper....I tried and tried but fuck that film..


It's just a very bad piece of filmmaking. The only positive thing I have to say about it is that Lucio Fulci is at his most sadistic with the murder set-pieces, which are well-executed. Other than that, it's just trash.





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Post by: splat on January 31, 2013, 03:07:18 AM
Dave, high motherfuckin' five!!.....I too can't stand New York Ripper....I tried and tried but fuck that film..


It's just a very bad piece of filmmaking. The only positive thing I have to say about it is that Lucio Fulci is at his most sadistic with the murder set-pieces, which are well-executed. Other than that, it's just trash.

Now that you mention it I think that is what grabs me about the film as well, the kills.
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Post by: Dave on January 31, 2013, 05:22:53 AM
Dave, high motherfuckin' five!!.....I too can't stand New York Ripper....I tried and tried but fuck that film..


It's just a very bad piece of filmmaking. The only positive thing I have to say about it is that Lucio Fulci is at his most sadistic with the murder set-pieces, which are well-executed. Other than that, it's just trash.

Now that you mention it I think that is what grabs me about the film as well, the kills.

The kills are great. It's just everything else about it is abysmal.
Title: Re: ~ The Giallo Discussion Thread ~
Post by: splat on January 31, 2013, 05:40:05 AM
http://youtu.be/EcRr6heA69U (http://youtu.be/EcRr6heA69U)

I couldn't resist.
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Post by: woodenheart on January 31, 2013, 06:37:25 PM
:straightface:
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Post by: splat on February 02, 2013, 12:27:55 AM
:straightface:

hahahahaha yeah I know :D
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Post by: sethdlh on February 15, 2013, 09:56:48 PM
I watched Phantom Of Death last night from Ruggero Deodato. Far from perfect but worth checking out if you're looking to expand beyond the better known titles. I reviewed it at my blog if you want a more in depth word on it before checking it out - http://celluloidterror.blogspot.com/2013/02/phantom-of-death-1988_8112.html (http://celluloidterror.blogspot.com/2013/02/phantom-of-death-1988_8112.html)
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Post by: Dave on February 15, 2013, 10:57:21 PM
I watched Phantom Of Death last night from Ruggero Deodato. Far from perfect but worth checking out if you're looking to expand beyond the better known titles. I reviewed it at my blog if you want a more in depth word on it before checking it out - http://celluloidterror.blogspot.com/2013/02/phantom-of-death-1988_8112.html (http://celluloidterror.blogspot.com/2013/02/phantom-of-death-1988_8112.html)

Good review.

I've been wanting to see this for ages. I might have to get a copy soon from Cinemageddon.

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Post by: sethdlh on February 16, 2013, 12:52:12 AM
I watched Phantom Of Death last night from Ruggero Deodato. Far from perfect but worth checking out if you're looking to expand beyond the better known titles. I reviewed it at my blog if you want a more in depth word on it before checking it out - http://celluloidterror.blogspot.com/2013/02/phantom-of-death-1988_8112.html (http://celluloidterror.blogspot.com/2013/02/phantom-of-death-1988_8112.html)

Good review.

I've been wanting to see this for ages. I might have to get a copy soon from Cinemageddon.

Thanks, my friend. I would definitely recommend it for the next free leech session.
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Post by: Sek'Tal Alcyone on February 16, 2013, 03:55:34 AM
I've noticed this a few times while browsing Love Film, might check it out tonight.
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Post by: sethdlh on February 24, 2013, 11:17:34 PM
In The Devil's Garden - 6/10
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Post by: lightzonlycast on June 07, 2014, 06:28:11 AM
I think one day I'd like to make a Giallo film. I enjoy the formulaicness of the genre.

Obviously I don't have any high expectations about it being a huge hit lol.

I'd also like to try to do a Dogme 95 film. But that one I think would be a lot harder.
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Post by: dodgerblue1963 on December 18, 2014, 06:43:48 AM

I'm a big fan of giallo's, so i have decided to make friday, giallo day, not sure what i will watch tomorrow but i will post a review.
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Post by: dodgerblue1963 on December 19, 2014, 08:29:28 AM
 The Devil Has Seven Faces  (1971)

 Director: Osvaldo Civirani
 Stars: Carroll Baker, George Hilton, Stephen Boyd, Lucretia Love and Luciano Pigozzi

The theft of jewels and mistaken identity complicate the life of Mary in this giallo.

This was a new one for me and this was not a black gloved killer or very sleezy like most giallo but more of a crime thriller. It is set in Amsterdam, Holland, so the back drop of the story looks stunning, it's just a shame the story is not that great, the best part of the movie is the lovely score by Stelvio Cipriani but if you don't expect much in the way of traditional giallo thrills then there is some charm to this film, there are a few passages of effective suspense to enjoy but it was not the best , but i'm glad that i watched it.
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Post by: dodgerblue1963 on January 09, 2015, 10:14:53 AM

Formula for a Murder  (1985)

Director: Alberto De Martino
Stars: Christina Nagy, David Warbeck, Carroll Blumenberg and Rossano Brazzi

David Warbeck stars an instructor who marries a traumatized, crippled woman. The wife is tormented by a traumatic event that happended. What is even more unfortunate is that her marriage is a just part of her maniac husband's evil scheme to kill her for her money. It isn't long before the formula is put into action and the gory body count starts to mount.

Quite enjoyed this Giallo, slow in some places but the murders were well done with a good amount of blood, the acting was good and the film had plenty of tension, not a bad Giallo at all.

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Post by: RIP on January 09, 2015, 04:52:36 PM
Formula for a Murder  (1985)


Quite enjoyed this Giallo, slow in some places but the murders were well done with a good amount of blood, the acting was good and the film had plenty of tension, not a bad Giallo at all.

i think I do have this one on a dvr but it's been awhile since I last watched it.

http://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/formula_for_a_murder.htm (http://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/formula_for_a_murder.htm)
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Post by: dodgerblue1963 on January 10, 2015, 04:57:34 AM
i think I do have this one on a dvr but it's been awhile since I last watched it.

http://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/formula_for_a_murder.htm (http://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/Hysteria/formula_for_a_murder.htm)

It's well worth watching.
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Post by: I_Drink_Your_Blood on January 10, 2015, 10:08:06 AM
Indeed. I have the UK DVD which comes with a complimentary yellow plastic mac!

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Post by: Dave on January 10, 2015, 10:51:11 AM
I need to see 'Formula for a Murder'.
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Post by: dodgerblue1963 on January 10, 2015, 01:34:01 PM
Indeed. I have the UK DVD which comes with a complimentary yellow plastic mac!

(http://dv1.us/p1/738/216738-d0.jpg)

Same here   :yes:
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Post by: Matheny85 on January 10, 2015, 06:34:42 PM
I need to check out Formula for a murder. I will put it on my list of gialli I need to see.
The last giallo I watched was Death Occurred Last Night. Very good IMO. It's about a father searching for his daughter who is 25(but has the mind of a little child). It's him and a detective trying to find her and also trying to find out how someone got a hold of her. Because he locked his daughter in while he went to work so she wouldn't get out and wonder the streets. Raro recently released it here in the U.S. when I found it for a decent price I bought it for my gialli collection.
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Post by: dodgerblue1963 on January 16, 2015, 10:22:19 AM

Seven Murders for Scotland Yard  (1971)

Director: José Luis Madrid

Stars: Paul Naschy, Patricia Loran, Renzo Marignano and Andrés Resino

In this version of the famous story of the London serial killer, Jack not only likes to kill prostitutes but he is a cannibal as well.

This Giallo is set in the seedy world of Soho, London and there is a killer going around killing prostitutes just like the infamous Jack the ripper, the chief suspect is Pedro (Paul Naschy) an ex acrobat. This film is not brilliant but saying that i enjoyed the film alot, the only down side was that after 10 minutes i had guessed who the killer was. If you like your black gloved Giallo's give this one a try as i think you will enjoy it.
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Post by: deadeyes on February 03, 2015, 12:54:47 AM
can anyone recommend or point me in the right direction online of any biographies or documentaries on lucio fulci or his films? behind the screens stuff

can anyone list any films that are in the same vein as don't torture a duckling and new york ripper? from the 70's or 80's...maybe early 90's
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Post by: splat on May 31, 2016, 11:23:15 AM
As you may have seen elsewhere I watched The House With Laughing Windows the other day. have read that it is a slow burner till the awesome ending, But for me I never found it slow. Was too caught up in the visual elements. Really stood out as beautiful to me.

Been quite a while since I watched any Giallo, going to catch up with what I have in my library before moving onto other stuff. These are perfect for midnight matinees!
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Post by: splat on September 26, 2016, 09:21:54 AM
https://www.furiouscinema.com/spaghetti-slashers-20-giallo-classics/ (https://www.furiouscinema.com/spaghetti-slashers-20-giallo-classics/)
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Post by: Seikotik on September 26, 2016, 04:24:06 PM
Great read, thanks splat.
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Post by: splat on September 26, 2016, 08:43:02 PM
Danka! Was re-doing my library and needed some info and came across this and thought was worthy enough to share here.
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Post by: splat on October 05, 2016, 11:25:32 PM
(http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i429/SplatMk2/DSCN4118.jpg) (http://s1093.photobucket.com/user/SplatMk2/media/DSCN4118.jpg.html)

Giallo ~

A Bay of Blood
The Black Belly of the Tarantula
Deep Red
Don't Torture a Duckling
Giallo
Hatchet For a Honeymoon
The House With Laughing Windows
The Night Evelyn Came Out of the Grave
The New Your Ripper Quack Quack
Opera
Spasmo
Strip Nude for Your Killer
Stage Fright
The Strange Vice of Mrs Wardh
Susperia
Sono Profondo
Symphony in Blood Red
Torso
Tenebrae
Your Vice is a Locked Room and Only I Have the Key

Those blu were gifts in case you were wondering...a guy who used to be on UHM and here for Deep Red and Adopto-Dad for Susperia. VERY holly but still not a bad crowd...even don't mind Quack Quack.

Included those two new school Giallo because why the fuck not : )
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Post by: splat on November 05, 2016, 10:02:04 AM
Dario Argento's original has been given a stunning 4K restoration and will be screening - for two nights only! - over in Italy. http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/11/04/heres-the-eye-popping-trailer-for-suspirias-4k-re-release (http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/11/04/heres-the-eye-popping-trailer-for-suspirias-4k-re-release)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nkg_xAHeZw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nkg_xAHeZw)
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Post by: splat on April 14, 2017, 03:17:22 AM
Another remake coming our way...What Have You Done to Solange? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5752306/?ref_=adv_li_tt (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5752306/?ref_=adv_li_tt)
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Post by: Renacimiento on April 14, 2017, 09:46:02 PM
^ Oh god...
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Post by: CountOrlok on April 19, 2017, 12:08:09 AM
You cannot remake giallo, unless they do something like The Love Witch which is a proper homage to films of that era.
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Post by: splat on April 19, 2017, 11:21:26 AM
Exactly...there are so many factors to the originals that just cannot be remade apart from the base idea.

Might as well take the promise and create your own then perhaps mention such and such was an influence or some shit.

But then that would not pull the crowd in.

I just share these as I am oh fuck here we go again. Some direct remakes have prove interesting in their own ways but there been many a failure as well.

Being there is no name connected leaves me wondering their motivations....but then this could be to surprise us as well...
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Post by: FuckMeMilos on April 19, 2017, 01:48:02 PM
Did anyone else see 2013's The Strange Colour of Your Body's Tears? I think the film is visually arresting. Quite an excellent nod to Giallo films of the 70s. The narrative is confusing, but I think overall it's very well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYXXpT11WtM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYXXpT11WtM)

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Post by: woodenheart on April 19, 2017, 04:10:36 PM
Yes! Love that film. Was thinking of revisiting it the other day.
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Post by: splat on April 19, 2017, 06:46:13 PM
Have been meaning to catch The Strange Colour of Your Body's Tears for a long time. This is where all these remakes...if they are truly fans of giallo...should go...create their own experience.
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Post by: Renacimiento on April 19, 2017, 10:56:23 PM
You cannot remake giallo, unless they do something like The Love Witch which is a proper homage to films of that era.

Well said, I have not finished watching The Love Witch (I saw half of it), but it is a serious &proper homage to the giallo, regardless of whether the movie after it ends up being bad or not (which of course is a matter of personal taste), but if you respect and love something, that's the way to honor it.